How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

When does a woman know she is cumming?

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Does a narcissist ever get their comeuppance/karma for the vile things they've done? Such as cheating, smear campaign, etc.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

What is the reason for The Acolyte (2024 series) having poor reception among Star Wars fans?

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One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

What do you think will be the biggest factor in determining whether Daniel Penny was justified in believing that Jordan Neely had posed a deadly threat in the manslaughter trial?

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Sain (a barber)

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I gave him everything. He said he loved me. Why?

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Why doesn’t the UK change their flag?

Now here in this verse

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

Did you become a cuckold for your wife?

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Why do men first look at a woman's chest instead of their face?

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

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ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Why do most atheists in debates with theists take Bible verses out of context much of the time? Are they lying maliciously or do they not understand theology enough to understand the meaning?

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

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Does the Lil Wayne song ‘Lollipop’ refers to a Lollipop sweet or a metaphor?

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

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Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

CONCLUSION:

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

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My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

Kabir (a weaver)

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

I am like a fish out of water,

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

NOW…

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

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Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥